Asterix NZ

The Lost Asterix Films

There have been 8 cartoon Asterix movies and three live-action movies made about Asterix correct? Wrong.

Lost in the sands of time are further Asterix films - some completed, some only with screenplays written, and some that were never anything more than an idea.

On this page I chronicle some of the rarities of Asterix's world - Asterix films that have been lost... for better or worse.


"Deux romains en Gaule": Two Romans in Gaul
The year is 1967AD. France is entirely conquered by the comic book Asterix. Well, not entirely… Asterix's adventures have done phenomenally well in print, but some are calling for a live-action Asterix film. On 25 February a one-hour black and white film debuts on French Television. Asterix and Obelix are not the heroes of this film but two Roman Legionaries "Ticketbus" and "Prospectus". However, the film is hugely significant in the history of Asterix in that it is set in the world of the Asterix comics, is written by Rene Goscinny, features cameos by Goscinny and Uderzo and most importantly: it contains possibly the first animated screen appearance by Asterix and Obelix.

So why then do so few Asterix fans know of its existence?

I myself didn't know anything about this film until a few days ago when my friend from Germany Erik Hevers wrote to me explaining the film's history. Most of the following information I am indebted to him for providing.

Ever since Asterix really took off in France in the early 1960s there had been the idea to turn Asterix into a live-action film (see the feature "More Live Action Movies" on this page below). Goscinny always steadfastly refused - he believed Asterix and Obelix could never be played by real live human actors. The anatomical differences were just too great (with the release of the live-action Asterix movies we can test this theory!). However, because the demand was still strong Goscinny set about writing a script for a movie set in the Asterixian world created by Uderzo and himself, yet without the well-known characters from the books.

"Deux romains en Gaule" (Two Romans in Gaul) was born.

The film's protagonists are the two Roman legionaries Ticketbus and Prospectus who become tired of their legionary existence and decide to retire in Gaul. Goscinny and Uderzo act in the movie ("Le dictionnaire
Goscinny
" informs us Uderzo was a pavement artist and Goscinny is a Gaulish waiter).

Long time Asterix film collaborator Pierre Tchernia (who you may recall from his series of caricatures in the books) directed.

"Deux romains en Gaule": Two Romans in Gaul
Prospectus and Ticketbus with Goscinny

For fans disappointed that live action incarnations of Asterix and Obelix were absent there WAS a sweetener - an animated Asterix and Obelix from the books appeared in a scene where they talked to an imprisoned (real life) Roman. They were voiced by Roger Carel and Jacques Morel - Carel has voiced all of Asterix's animated screen appearances in France from Asterix the Gaul in 1967 to Asterix and the Vikings in 2006, and Morel voiced Obelix in Asterix the Gaul and Asterix and Cleopatra.

This film would seemingly be hugely important in the history of the Asterix series and yet, it is well and truly lost. The movie was only ever broadcast in France, and of course before the invention of VCR recorders so no copy as been displayed in public again.

There are only a few sources of information about the movie on the internet, and none on the official Asterix site. There is an imdb.com, allocine.fr and wikipedia.fr entry for "Deux romains en Gaule", as well as a mention in French on goscinny.net for which we can cobble together the following "Vital Statistics" regarding the film:

  • Title: Deux Romains en Gaule
  • Title translated to English : Two Romans in Gaul
  • Screenplay by: Rene Goscinny with Albert Uderzo and Pierre Tchernia
  • Directed by: Pierre Tchernia
  • Broadcast: 25 February 1967, France
  • Duration: One Hour

Cast

  • Ticketbus: Roger Pierre
  • Prospectus: Jean-Marc Thibault
  • Decurion: Jean Yanne
  • Asterix (voice): Roger Carel
  • Obelix (voice): Jacques Morel
  • Featuring: Albert Uderzo, Rene Goscinny, Robert Beauvais, Jean Bellanger , Maurice Biraud , Anne-Marie Carrière, Viviane Chiffre, Roger Couderce, Pierre Dac, Max Desrau, Albert Dinan, Max Elloy, Jean Franval, Jacqueline Huet, Bernard Lavalette, Pierre Mondy, Patrick Préjean, Monique Saintey, Anne Sand, Pierre Tornade, Lino Ventura

Goscinny.net also provides us with a quote from Goscinny about the making of the film:

"Jouer l'envers de l'histoire, c'est terrible ! C'est même terriblement rigolo. Et nous nous sommes terriblement amusés à tourner cette série de sketches pour la television" (Playing the other side of the story, it's terrible! It is even terribly funny. And we were terribly amused to turn this series of sketches for television)

Goscinny.net also features this regetably small ensemble of colour images from the film. This compounds the mystery of the film - if Goscinny wrote the story so he did not have to have actors portraying the roles, why is there an image of an "Obelix" looking actor?
The film does indeed have many mysteries. Not least of which, does it contain the first animated appearance of Asterix and Obelix?

Let me explain. The first animated Asterix movie - Asterix the Gaul - was made by Georges Darguad without the knowledge of Goscinny and Uderzo. The authors were unable to halt its release in cinemas in 1967 where it proved a smash hit. 1967 is significant for us here, because it was of course in February that "Two Romans in Gaul" was broadcast. I am unable to find the original French release date for Asterix the Gaul, but the German Comedix.de site has the release as late 1967. This would mean that this authorised film pipped Gaul by several months to feature the first animated rendering of Asterix and Obelix. An incidental factoid is that Asterix the Gaul was originally intended as a television movie.

But the further mystery is how "Two Romans in Gaul" fits with what we know about the production of Asterix movies at the time. The same producers of Gaul were also preparing an animated Asterix and the Golden Sickle (see article below) which Goscinny and Uderzo were able to stop the release of. G&U went ahead instead with their own animated feature Asterix and Cleopatra which was released in December 1968. The question is, when was Two Romans in Gaul made? It seems it would be during the same time that Gaul/Golden Sickle were being made. In this case, we might question when Goscinny and Uderzo found out about these productions. For all 3 movies curiously use the same voice actors for Asterix and Obelix (Carel and Morel). Was Gaul already using these voice actors when the production was revealed to Goscinny and Uderzo so they hired them for "Two Romans in Gaul"? Or were they used for "Two Romans in Gaul" first? It's all very muddy and I'm not sure how this particular puzzle fits together.

There is one last source for the film which has proved most interesting for Asterix scholars. There is a 90 minutes long French documentary "Rene Goscinny - Profession Humoriste" which contains approximately 2 minutes of footage from "Deux romains en Gaule", as well as some behind the scenes footage (likely from the "Making of Two Romans in Gaul" directed by J. Locquin that Goscinny.net mentions). It is the only taste of the film that fans can partake at this present time.

It contains the following extracts from "Deux Romains en Gaule":

1. An animated Obelix emerging from a wall and joining up with Asterix to converse with an imprisoned Roman (Erik makes the observation that the rendering of Asterix and Obelix in "Deux Romains en Gaule" is of better quality than Asterix the Gaul - Asterix and Obelix are shown with five fingers on each hand in this film, while in Gaul all the characters only had four! "These early filmmakers were crazy!")
2. Goscinny as the waiter serving the legionaries. At the beginning of this clip, Uderzo(?) is drawing Asterix in chalk on the street.
3. Romans talking to Getafix looking Druids reminiscent of the Forest of Carnutes from Asterix and the Goths - there even appears to be a magic potion!

Below, for Asterix NZ readers, is this segment from the Goscinny Documentary. But it comes with a warning from Erik "But beware! If you have seen this once you'll be excited to watch the rest as well (although it's in french only) and it won't be easy to accept that we'll never get to see it. I know, what I'm talking about!"


There is a small ray of hope - at least one copy of "Deux romains en Gaule" still exists. On 30.6.2007 the whole movie was screened once in a single French cinema for the 30th Anniversary of Rene Goscinny's death.

The chances are slim whether Asterix fans like you or I will ever get to see it. I hope we do - the concept sounds hilarious and the prospect of seeing Asterix, Obelix, Goscinny and Uderzo all within the one film is delicious. This episode of Asterix's history deserves and demands to be released for all Asterix fans.


Asterix and the Golden Sickle
Asterix and the Golden Sickle

Productions Darguard Films were the first to see the animated film potential of the Asterix stories. They made two cartoon movies - Asterix the Gaul (which was released in cinemas with much success) and Asterix and the Golden Sickle. The problem was, Uderzo and Goscinny had no idea that these movies were made and were not happy about it at all when they found out. According to Asterix.com Goscinny and Uderzo were invited to a film screening by Georges Darguad and were "and were staggered to see a cartoon using their story and their graphics." They couldn't stop Gaul from being released but "to prevent a chill wind blowing up between the publisher/producer and his much venerated authors" the Asterix and the Golden Sickle Film project was ceremoniously dumped. Goscinny and Uderzo instead went on to make Asterix and Cleopatra under their own direction.

Asterix and the Golden Sickle has never been released publicly and it is not known whether it was fully or partially completed or if copies still exist. Our only glimpse of what the film might have been comes from images of six of the film's celluloids from the book "Asterix - The Mirror World" released to catalogue this exhibition held in Brussels, 2005.

Asterix and the Golden Sickle Animated Film

Asterix and the Golden Sickle Animated Film

Asterix and the Golden Sickle Animated Film

Asterix and the Golden Sickle Animated Film

Asterix the Gaul was a very poor movie so this probably wouldn't have been very good. The background plates above look nice, but the character animations seems particularily crude - compare how Surplus Dairiprodus (first picture) look's in book and film. Nevertheless, seeing this film would be particularily interesting for curiosity's sake.

Many thanks to Erik for providing the above pictures!


Dogmatix - The Movie

Asterix and the Class Act has a short story "Chanticleerix the Gaulish Cockerel" which Dogmatix, Obelix's faithful pet, costars in. The notes accompanying the story is very interesting: "The idea for this story came from a projected film spin-off. With Rene Goscinny, Albert Uderzo once planned a pilot for an animated cartoon film starring Dogmatix - a rarity which has remained unknown".

This is all we know about the film, but it is likely the Dogmatix series of books contained plot ideas from the proposed movie.

Dogmatix - The Movie

Asterix 3 : Asterix in Spain
Asterix in Spain

Asterix live-action movie producer Claude Berri hoped to follow up the success of Asterix: Mission Cleopatra with a third film based on the book Asterix in Spain. Gerard Jugnot wrote the script and was to direct.

Uderzo and Anne Goscinny were "not interested" in the film. It is likely that script widely deviated from the book which they were not happy with, although no details about what these were emerged.

What is most interesting about the movie is that they had already cast people, thinking that it would go ahead. Christian Clavier, who is not reprising his character Asterix in the real Asterix 3, was apparently happy to do Asterix in Spain, with Gerard Depardieu once again playing Obelix.

Josiane Balasko
Thierry Lhermitte
Michel Blanc

Actors Josiane Balasko, Thierry Lhermitte and Michel Blanc were to be in the movie as well (having previously appearied in Jugnot's Splendid), although it was not announced who they would have played. Most likely Balasko and Lhermitte would have played Chieftess and Chieftan of the Spanish Village with Blanc as a Roman Centurion.


More Live Action Movies

Erik sends this in: "So, I want to inform you, that there indeed were 2 "projects" for a real live adaption a long time before "Asterix and Obelix take on Caesar" had been produced. In the movie-book of the film there is a quotation from an Uderzo-interview.

He tells us there, that the frist project for an real life movie was initiated in the 1960s by the young, but prominent movie-director Claude Lelouch. His idea was, not to make the film with professional actors, but with people just from the street, which look like Asterix, Obelix and co. Goscinny and Uderzo had had a first working luncheon with Lelouch. But the project petered."

"The second "project" has been initiated by the prominent actor "Louis de Funès". He wanted to make an Asterix movie and to play the role of Asterix in it himself. Goscinny and Uderzo met him on a first working luncheon as well, but they didn't make any progression. Furthermore Goscinny and Uderzo got knowledge from the fact, that de Funès wanted to play Asterix without any beard. Finally it came to no further contact between the Asterix authors and de Funès. There's no information in the book, in which year this happened."
Louis de Funès as Asterix

Bonus!

This isn't really a proper Asterix Film, and it isn't really lost... but is an animated appearance by Asterix and Obelix! They feature on this french 1970 television advertisement from Alcan. Alcan are known for aluminium and based in Canada thus "There are no Romans here, we're Canadian!"


If you have any information on these or other lost Asterix films please get in contact with me.